tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post251780886996962736..comments2024-03-28T03:54:09.950-04:00Comments on Studio and Garden: Gessoing Painting PanelsAltoon Sultanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16743040814034732581noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-26547880443724987782018-04-26T06:19:58.224-04:002018-04-26T06:19:58.224-04:00If your first batch was excellent, why not repeat ...If your first batch was excellent, why not repeat that process. I haven't used the Gamblin's gesso; maybe their formulation doesn't have enough glue size in it. Altoon Sultanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743040814034732581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-63886044204085482432018-04-23T14:01:05.637-04:002018-04-23T14:01:05.637-04:00Hi,
I am preparing layers of tarditonal gesso for...Hi,<br /><br />I am preparing layers of tarditonal gesso for silver point, my frist batch was great, the surface was so smooth and hand, I used Gamblis gesso this time and they are chalky. The silver barely show up an dthere is some cracking. I am wondering if I can mix rabbit glue with marble dust for a top layer and add w add titanium white pigment to the batch. <br />Also, I do not frame my panels. Wondering what would happen if I poured over a sealant or even wax, encaustic. If anyone has tried this I would love to hear how it worked.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09687030888995982093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-51580566437359982092009-10-29T17:35:54.650-04:002009-10-29T17:35:54.650-04:00Altoon, it's so nice to see a post showing the...Altoon, it's so nice to see a post showing the panel making process. I have not had the patience, and it's not an ideal scenario in a NYC apt. to make my own gesso, so I order my panels from several different sources, including an icon supply company, that I feel happy with. I know a number of fellow painters however who really enjoy the craft of panel preparation. Interesting, too, to hear about different methods, like the use of gelatin.Mona Diane Connerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02022399915344870046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-79874746797541422832009-10-29T17:13:08.713-04:002009-10-29T17:13:08.713-04:00Susan, I didn't realize the panels were so thi...Susan, I didn't realize the panels were so thick. I wonder if some kind of non-yellowing varnish, plastic based like Soluvar, might be a good way to finish the work. It would be best to confer with a restorer, or someone who really knows about this, which I don't.<br /><br />I still just burnish my paintings; they're fine with that unless someone handles them poorly and mars the surface. This rarely happens. Linseed oil would yellow terribly, but an icon painter might like that look.Altoon Sultanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743040814034732581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-19009647896705817252009-10-29T16:51:01.367-04:002009-10-29T16:51:01.367-04:00Thank you. Good advice! I was thinking maybe somet...Thank you. Good advice! I was thinking maybe something like a shadow box would be best, since I gesso the sides too, and they're about 3/4 inch thick.<br />When I studied egg tempera with some Russian icon painters (thirty years ago), they finished off the paintings with linseed oil. Do you still only burnish yours, as you wrote about?Susan Sawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249426819285565971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-79387552314535448732009-10-29T13:35:47.246-04:002009-10-29T13:35:47.246-04:00If I were you, Susan, I'd frame those drawings...If I were you, Susan, I'd frame those drawings under glass; they're just too delicate to take a chance. I used to do a lot of painting with gouache, and also hated putting that lovely matte finish under glass, but there was no choice. Egg tempera, though, is actually pretty tough; it resists water, though it's not as waterproof as oil paint, and when the surface dries thoroughly it gets fairly hard.Altoon Sultanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743040814034732581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-38331603700454304142009-10-29T12:43:40.154-04:002009-10-29T12:43:40.154-04:00I use a gesso ground on (homemade) basswood panels...I use a gesso ground on (homemade) basswood panels for silverpoint -- never thought of using my fingers for the first coat! Brilliant. Or using gelatin instead of hide glue -- of course it's the same stuff, basically.<br /><br />But the part I haven't figured out is a good way to frame these panels -- with just the gesso & silverpoint drawing on them, they are so fragile and pale; I hate to cover that wonderful surface with glass, but they need some protection from fingers, dust, and so on. It's a puzzle.Susan Sawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249426819285565971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-711291006348532982009-10-28T21:26:38.281-04:002009-10-28T21:26:38.281-04:00Size is simply a glue solution used to isolate the...Size is simply a glue solution used to isolate the panel (or canvas, for oil painting) before putting on the ground, which in this case is gesso. Yes, I use ordinary Knox unflavored gelatin. I imagine the gelatin would have a color cast on paper that might not be desired, so you should probably stick with the PVA. <br /><br />A gessoed panel is erasable too; just use water.Altoon Sultanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16743040814034732581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7658518583188826551.post-8225730975002150522009-10-28T20:42:43.293-04:002009-10-28T20:42:43.293-04:00the surface on those finished panels is so enticin...the surface on those finished panels is so enticing, inviting - yet were I offered it, I would be intimidated - anything I put there would ruin the beautiful surface. which is no doubt another reason why I opt for the endlessly erasable screen.<br />about the sizing. you mean gelatin I buy for jello is size? what IS size? I sometimes use a PVA size on paper - I could use gelatin instead?rappelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03569445602513667186noreply@blogger.com